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Dieter Schmid - Fine Tools |
Georg-Wilhelm-Str. 7 A - 10711 Berlin - Germany Tel ++49 (0)30 342 1757 - Fax ++49 (0)30 342 1764 Website: www.fine-tools.com
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Dieter Schmid - Fine Tools
Georg-Wilhelm-Str. 7 A - 10711 Berlin Tel ++49 30 342 1757 - Fax ++49 30 342 1764 Website: www.fine-tools.com
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Saw Sharpening Tools
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Here you will find the tools you need to sharpen sawblades.
All files delivered without handle. Handles you will find here!
What size of file should one use?
It is in principle simple: a triangular file should be chosen that is big enough so that as the teeth are sharpened, the file can be rotated in between teeth and all three sides of the file will be evenly worn down. So one measures the tooth depth and looks to the width of the file. The file's width should be a hair under double the tooth depth.
If it is particularly important to one to have a good view of the teeth while filing, one should choose a smaller file, with sides just a little wider than the tooth depth. The file will wear out faster, but one will have better control over the work. Good light also is very important for this kind of work. A side benefit is that this will be a good test to see of one's eyesight or eyeglass prescription is good! If one's eyes tire quickly, it is a good indicator that all is not as it should be!
What is the difference between normal three-sided files and saw files?
Regular three-sided files have sharp corners that cut a hard angle. Saw files have corners that are ever so slightly rounded, so as to maintain the round gullet between the saw's teeth as one files them. This is to help prevent cracking the base of the teeth, which is easy to do if one does not work carefully and precisely. Because of technical issues in the manufacture of saw files, there is a limit to how small the files can be made. Therefore we, as recommended by Eddie Sirotich of Adria Tools, offer a small needle file to sharpen saws with extremely fine teeth. An alternative for very fine-toothed Western type saws is to use a small Japanese sword-form file, which also has a lightly rounded corner. But one must then file both the tooth's front edge and back separately. This in contrast to using the proper triangular file, which will file the front of one tooth and the back of the previous tooth on the same stroke.
In the tables below, we provide a list of saws we sell for which each file is recommended. But of course the list is not exhaustive and multiple combinations are possible.
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| Flat file - to trim irregular teeth |
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Length |
Cross section |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
| all handsaws |
200 mm |
19 x 4.8 mm |
3 |
314050
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€ 6.90 |
| Saw file regular |
| for |
Length |
Width |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
| Frame saws 301150, 301151 |
100 mm |
9 mm |
2 |
302524
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€ 4.10 |
Frame saws 301162, 301153 Pax handsaws 303007, 303008, 303010 |
150 mm |
13 mm |
2 |
302525
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€ 5.30 |
| Farmer's saws 301156, 301158 |
200 mm |
16 mm |
2 |
302526
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€ 7.10 |
| Saw file slim |
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Length |
Width |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
Turning saw 301164 Pax Tenon saw 303005 |
100 mm |
6.3 mm |
2 |
302527
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€ 4.10 |
Frame saws 301150, 301151 Pax handsaws 303006, 303010 |
150 mm |
9 mm |
2 |
302528
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€ 5.30 |
| Saw file double extra slim |
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Length |
Width |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
Pax Gents saws 303009, 303016, 303017
Greaves Gents saws 303026, 303027, 303028, 303029
Adria Tenon saws 306901, 306902, 306911, 306912
Pax Dovetail saw 303003
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100 mm |
4 mm |
2 |
302530
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€ 4.10 |
Greaves Gents saws 303026, 303027, 303028, 303029
Turning saw 301164
Pax Tenon saw 303005
Adria Tenon saws 306901, 306912
Pax Dovetail saw 303003
Veneer saw 302530
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125 mm |
5 mm |
2 |
302531
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€ 4.70 |
Turning saw 301164
Pax Tenon saw 303005
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150 mm |
6 mm |
2 |
302532
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€ 5.30 |
| Saw file for Gent's saws |
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Length |
Cross section |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
| Greaves Gents saws 303026, 303027, 303028, 303029 |
100 mm |
6 x 4 mm |
2 |
302533
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€ 9.90 |
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Needle file threesquare for extremly small teeth
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| for |
Total length |
Cut length |
Cross section |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
Pax Mini Gents saws 303017, 303015, 303013
Inlay saw and Jewellers Saw 303020, 303019
Razorsaw und Flush cutting saw 303025, 303018
Veneer saws 300390, 303999, 303310
Adria Dovetail saw 306900
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140 mm |
70 mm |
3.5 mm |
2 |
302705 |
€ 6.80 |
| Saw-files for Japanese Saws Made in Japan! Suitable for traditional saws! |
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Length |
Width |
Cut |
Order nr. |
Price |
Dozuki 312060, 312061
Ryoba 312057, 309455, 309457
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75 mm |
17 x 2.3 mm |
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312067
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€ 9.30 |
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Ryoba 312057, 309459, 309461, 309463
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100 mm |
20 x 3 mm |
2 |
312068
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€ 10.50 |
Ryoba 309463
Kobiki 309830
Temagori 309834, 312020
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150 mm |
28 x 4 mm |
2 |
312069
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€ 14.95 |
Saw Sets made by SOMAX
SOMAX makes 4 different handsets: with magnifying glass or not, for normal or for fine sawblades. They have a stamp width of 2.2 mm, suited for normal saws or a stamp width of 1.4 mm, suited for fine saws.
Instruction how to use the Somax Saw Set
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Somax Saw Set
without magnifying glass
for 8 - 4 TPI saws
(3 - 7 mm from tip to tip)
Order nr. 310600
Price € 20.90
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Somax Saw Set
without magnifying glass
for 16 - 5 TPI saws
(1.5 - 5 mm from tip to tip)
Order nr. 310601
Price € 20.90
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Somax Saw Set
with magnifying glass
for 8 - 4 TPI saws
(3 - 7 mm from tip to tip)
Order nr. 310602
Price € 24.50
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Somax Saw Set
with magnifying glass
for 16 - 5 TPI saws
(1.5 - 5 mm from tip to tip)
Order nr. 310603
Price € 24.50
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Sloping clamp
Sharpening saws is pretty much impossible to accomplish without some sort of a saw vise.
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